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  • #870998

    ernieusafret
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    #871005

    JoB
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    ernieusafret

    thank you for that wonderful illustration of just what is so wrong about the Trump Presidency…
    that and the fact that so few people have realized that they are buttercup ;-)

    #871059

    ernieusafret
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    First of all I voted. I vote in all elections, and have since 1960.

    Second- on a scale of 1-10, I gave both candidates a 0.0, maybe a 0.1, but that gives me a headache.
    Usually you have a lesser of 2 evils, but in this case, it’s a tie.

    Third- The election is over. Lets move on to running the country.
    People are tired of the status quo, with career politicians out for the money, and all the power they can accumulate.
    I am for term limits for ALL politicians.

    Here is why Trump won. Pick your source.They all vary in the numbers, but with the same results.

    http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/

    http://time.com/4587866/donald-trump-election-map/

    Clinton Counties

    http://www.inquisitr.com/3748311/donald-trump-won-2600-counties-compared-to-clintons-500-winning-83-of-the-geographic-nation/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/16/that-misleading-breitbart-map-explained-how-trumps-dominance-acr/

    #871061

    aa
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    Enough already

    #871064

    captainDave
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    Why should anyone care about how name counties Trump won? You might as well tally how many square miles he won or how many owner occupied homes vs rented apartments. It doesn’t matter. The election rules were the rules and Trump won based on that–not some other measure. People really need to get over this crap and accept that the progressive liberal agenda is going to take a back seat for at least the next four years. Otherwise, lefties should get off their butts and try to start their communist revolution.

    #871073

    JanS
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    oh. honey, just you wait. I think this will be the thing that spurs people on to really pay attention, be they on the left, in the center, or even those on the right who believed what trump said in his campaigning, which basically were just words with no meaning. Everyone of his appointees so far are the same ol’, same ol’ rich folks who were rewarded because of donations (see Ms. Devos). You know…the pay to play, expecting something in return that y’all bitched about when it came to Ms. Clinton. She even said she expected something in return for her support.The trumpsters are starting to pay attention…health insurance taken away, no job creations, the swamp just overflowing it’s banks, broken promises. The really laughable one was “Lock’er’up.” They’re bitchin’ already about how disappointed they are, and he ain’t even sworn in yet. They thought he’d make it better for them…instead, they got Prez Trumputin…lololol…who doesn’t really give a damn about them. I’m still laughing at the guy who posted on a thread on Facebook, laughing at people who lamented losing Obamacare. He said let it go, it was ineffectual, a disaster. He wasn’t worried because he was covered through the ACA, so he had his. Dummy didn’t even know they’re the same, and he’ll have it taken away. Sad all around, really. So don’t be too confident of yourself, Dave.

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    #871077

    JanS
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    here’s another example of…well….I can think of no other words but “sheer stupidity”…

    http://addictinginfo.org/2017/01/18/watch-people-interviewed-explain-why-affordable-care-act-is-better-than-obamacare/

    I have to admit…I really like the last guy interviewed…:D

    #871088

    JoB
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    ernieusafret
    i think you are about to find out that there was considerable difference between the two candidates.. starting with their choices for cabinet positions.
    Trump has chosen candidates who are opposed to the mandates of the organizations they will head.
    he has also chosen cabinet candidates who will profit directly from being a cabinet head.

    i don’t know what part of conflict of interest you fail to get.

    then there is the truth factor. Hillary’s truth rating during the campaign.. the highest. She may not have said what you wanted to hear but she told you the truth.
    Trump? He can’t even be consistent about his lies.. or should i simply call them boasts because that’s what they amount to…

    What was most different is that Hillary thought it would matter to voters that she told them the truth… Trump knew it wouldn’t matter that he was caught in bald faced lies… because people didn’t want to hear the truth.

    That one truth is the one that keeps me up at night worrying about what will happen in our nation… that people don’t want to hear or see the truth …

    anyone who still thinks that the two candidates were equally flawed hasn’t been paying attention to the transition team….

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    #871142

    williamf64
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    Unbelievable Hilarious ! ( Jan S.)sad defense of this Corrupt Criminal Hillary and her scummy rapist Lying husband has to be the most blatant example of ( L.M.D. ) Liberal Mental DisOrder I have ever seen. Not to mention the entire Lying & Corrupt OBama Legacy but the honorable President Trump will take care of that whole thing.
    ONLY to ( Jan S. or her trusty sidekick JoB ) the Mayor & Sheriff of Liberal-ville could Hillary be a Truth teller. Not to mention the ” I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN ” sick rapist liar Sweet Willy.
    “HillBag and Willy “… Two lying & Corrupt scumbags that made all of there 10’s of millions of Dollars off of the service of the American people ( ie. a political career) These 2 slimeballs never produced anything or employed anybody. Nope, They made all of there Millions off of favors and corruption.
    Lie after Lie rolled out of the ” Nasty One’s ” mouth that I am not truly convinced that her real name is actually Hillary. of course the American people weren’t fooled that is why she had a Trustworthy rating of around 30% and that is after the Liberal media covered for her lying ass over and over again.
    But for the sake of Progressive delusion let us check out the short list of Hillary ” Truth Tales ” shall we ?
    Hillary’s List of Lies :
    1) Email : ” I only used one ( 1 ) device to send my emails “BLATANT and proven
    Lie. She had ( 13 ). In Liberal math is 13 greater than 1 ? Just curious ?
    Email : ” I didn’t send or receive Classified information on my email server ” . Blatant Lie
    Email : ” I turned over all of my emails that they asked for” . Fully cooperated
    . Except for the 30,000 emails that we found out had been ” Bleached ” with a sophisticated erasing software.
    So, in the Liberal-ville public schools. ( 60,000 Total subpoenaed emails )-( 30,000 erased emails ) = ( All of the emails ). Sounds like the Liberal-ville schools have the same Math success as our US Public Schools system does.

    2) Benghazi – ” The attack was motivated by a Video ” Hillary herself told Chelsea and a few others the night after the attack -via- email that it was an act of Terrorism and had ” nothing to do with a Video ” Oop’s…

    3) T.P.P. – Trans Pacific Partnership – Hillary said she Never supported the T.P.P. and that when PRESIDENT Trump pointed out her Lie she accused PRESIDENT Trump of ‘ Living in his own reality. Sound familiar to anyone that has followed ( Jan S. or JoB ) huh ? But, There is Video from multiple sources showing Hillary saying to groups of people in front of the camera’s that the T.P.P. is the ” Gold Standard ”

    4 ) Kosovo : ” We landed under Sniper Fire ” Un-Believable Lie. There is actually Video available showing Hitlary being handed flowers and hugs by school girls on the actual runway. Extremely brave 5th graders to be Bravely handing out Flowers under ” Sniper Fire “. this is such a Blatant Lie that I have even seen Democrats laugh at this one.

    5) Hillary and the Clinton Crime Cartel deny knowing anything about Scott Foval and the Organized Crime & Violence division of the DNC that paid Democrat Operatives to infiltrate the Peaceful Trump rallies and to purposely cause Violence and instigate fights. The Clinton Crime organization continued to deny/Lie about knowledge of any of this even after Scott Foval admitted on Videotape to the crimes and even after he and Robert Creamer ( Husband of Democratic Congresswoman ) resigned in disgrace.
    Even after all of this Blatant evidence on Videotape Hillary continued the Lie and continued to accuse the Trump Deplorables of instigating and committing Violence yet the extensive evidence that the Clinton crime machine had knowledge that the DNC had paid employees that organized , instructed and paid Operatives to actually infiltrate Trump rallies posing as Innocent , law abiding, patriotic Trump supporters to gain entry to the event and then once inside the peaceful event they were paid ( $1,500 ) ea. to commit violence. SICK !
    The American people saw through this charade and the Liberal Media lies and realized they could vote for a true American patriot that wasn’t looking to get rich off serving the American people and actually had immense success in the Real world.

    Welcome to 4 Years of Reality and Common sense. Ouch…! AKA Liberal Cryptonite !

    #871182

    JanS
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    gee…you have me at a disadvantage, Mr. William…seems you know me, or at least know about me..oh, and my “trusty sidekick”. Actually, more than that…we are friends away from the forum…and we thank the forum for that. Most people know that. Maybe you could clue us in as to who you might be..just a little hint , maybe? Awww, c’mon :)

    Oh, and while you’re at it…here’s a link to a great video of your new savior as president..speaking of pasts

    http://www.salon.com/2016/02/17/watch_trump_discuss_anal_sex_his_wifes_lack_of_bowel_movements_and_how_sleeping_around_is_as_dangerous_as_vietnam/

    obvs. NSFW

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    #871183

    JanS
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    http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2017/01/19/510631971/hear-arcade-fires-new-song-with-mavis-staples-i-give-you-power?

    the irony…Arcade Fire is a Canadian band..

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    #871193

    Sunuva
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    For anyone still searching for an alternative to watching the inauguration on TV, my suggestion is to listen to KEXP today. They are doing a “Day of Peace” with songs, discussion, interviews and more all about peace, love, and understanding. Bob Marley is playing as I write this. They are also planning a large sing-along of “Give Peace a Chance” at 9am. If you don’t have radio, you can listen online at kexp.org, or use an app like Tune-In on your smartphone.

    Jans, the new Arcade Fire track is awesome! Heard it yesterday on KEXP and was amazed. Thanks for sharing!

    #871196

    Sunuva
    Participant

    JanS, I didn’t think too much into the lyrics of the new AF song on my first listen. Giving it a second listen today and there is more to it than meets the ear. Thanks again for sharing.

    #871202

    J242
    Participant

    As another alternative, might I suggest “Idiocracy” on demand, on loop?

    #871218

    HMC Rich
    Participant

    Welcome Mr. President. I exercised my right to view the event through freedom of the press shown on my TV. It was a beautiful thing. The peaceful transition of power. God Bless all people of the United States and our loved ones be they human or not.

    #871231

    captainDave
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    HMC: I agree. It was amazing to see such a wonderful event that exemplifies everything I have always known about the ability for this country to overcome adversity. I truly believe we are witnessing the end of a century of liberal-proggressive lies, deceit, corruption and graft that has caused so much misery. This is a giant step in the advancement of humanity. It’s too bad that so many here in Seattle don’t recognize the brainwashing they have been subjected to through leftist controlled education and media propaganda. The election of President Trump shows that facts, evidence and reason can prevail.

    #871233

    JanS
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    Rich..good for you. Despite everything going on at the moment, that IS your right. We all wish the best for this country and it’s people. I did not watch, as is MY right… I am afraid that many who supported/support this man are going to be sorely disappointed…time will tell. I, personally, have a bad feeling. But then, I rely on SS and Medicare…so it’s personal. Those things will not affect people who don’t receive those benefits yet. I am watching very carefully, as my life literally depends on those…

    change for changes sake…well, change can be a good thing, but..it’s not guaranteed to be good..no one should be complacent now…

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    #871244

    JanS
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    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/regressive
    regressive. … To understand the word regressive, it’s helpful to know that its antonym, or opposite, is progressive. When something is progressive, it tends to get better and more advanced. Something that’s regressive, on the other hand, gets less developed or returns to an older state.

    #871303

    redblack
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    hey, william. trump won. hillary lost. get over it! sheesh. it seems like you and the other breitbart moonbats have a little crush on the clintons.

    for those of you who think that liberals are going to shut up and go away because trump won the white house and republicans control congress:

    what? you think there will be no more politics? you won, game over? gonna cancel elections? curtail free speech? you think that we should just lay back and enjoy letting billionaires unwrite the regulations that protect consumers?

    you should be thanking us for paying attention for you. and for knowing that ACA and obamacare are the same thing. (many of your twittering bretheren don’t.) and for keeping an eye on creeping theocracy.

    my bet is that the republican congressional caucuses start to resemble lord of the flies within the year, as they fight over the K street lobbyists’ candy. do you really think congress critters want their personal money swamp drained?

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    #871431

    JoB
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    williamf64
    fact checking is your friend.. really..
    it makes you look so much smarter when you fact check what you write before you hit submit….

    #871433

    JanS
    Participant

    now, JoB….why would he want to seem smarter….Wm.sounds perfectly happy in his “ignorance” to me ;-)

    #871466

    waynster
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    Hmmmm some reason its not showing so I’ll repost so it might come up twice lol……

    JanS and JoB he is using the new “Alternative facts” the white house is now using ……

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/22/politics/kellyanne-conway-alternative-facts/index.html

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/22/media/alternative-facts-donald-trump/index.html

    #871471

    captainDave
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    redblack: I don’t think liberals are going to shut up and go away. I think we are at the beginning of a civil war. It is quite likely that the war of words will quickly escalate into more violence as progressive liberals get angrier about not getting what they believe they deserve from other people.

    Since the days of emancipation, there has always been just two kinds of people in America. Those who believe in uniform individual rights, and those who believe its ok to take the fruits of someone else’s labor by force. After the Civil War, the concept of socialism offered a new form of slavery that used a series of complex shell games to obscure the forcible transfer of sweat equity. Just look at how liberals went from wanting to protect US jobs to siding with Wall Street elites to take advantage of slave labor in countries with no human rights. It’s just pathetic to watch people marching for equality in clothing made by some of the most inhumane societies on earth.

    Fortunately, we are not a democracy, so progressives don’t have the right to trade away human freedom for free and cheap stuff. The checks and balances of our constitutional republic seemed to have kicked in as socialist greed reached a tipping point under Obama. The efforts of liberals to transform America into a socialist “neo-democracy” can’t really happen–even if a vast majority wanted it. Anti-subversion enforcement will invariably prevent it–just like it has in the past. I am sure liberals will be shocked at how many people would welcome a new era of McCarthyism.

    Stefan Molyneux is a diligent fact checker. You should check out his video podcast “The Horrible Truth About Barack Obama’s Presidency”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsWzfhvvOgg&t=61s It provides a lot of interesting solid-source statistics for those willing to have their beliefs challenged. Molyneux also has a fascinating video about McCarthy too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljpYZ8wejA –its long, but provides a lot of foundation for the polarized strife we have today in this country.

    #871502

    JoB
    Participant

    CaptainDave..
    sigh.. don’t you tired of this? i get tired of this.
    “Since the days of emancipation, there has always been just two kinds of people in America. Those who believe in uniform individual rights, and those who believe its ok to take the fruits of someone else’s labor by force. ”
    FYI.. the two groups of people you mention were the root cause of that emancipation you cite..
    but. heck.. let’s not quibble…

    “The checks and balances of our constitutional republic seemed to have kicked in as socialist greed reached a tipping point under Obama.”
    if this were true. .the disparity between the incomes of the middle class and those of the wealthy would not be so large.. but check the numbers dude… they don’t support your contention.

    “I am sure liberals will be shocked at how many people would welcome a new era of McCarthyism.”
    Are you one of those who would welcome McCarthyism Captain Dave? Because.. you are right.. i did have the mistaken impression that America had learned something from the transgressions of McCarthyism…

    So i have to ask. Is it ok with you if i spread rumors about you.. if i can get enough people to say it’s true.. then who needs due process.. i can sink you without a whimper… That’s ok with you??? right???

    that was the process that defined McCarthyism… and if you don’t know that you should find another place to “fact” check

    #871514

    redblack
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    to quote a former president, dave: “there you go again” with your vilification of liberals, attributing some sort of fantastic bolshevism to our motives.

    that dog just won’t hunt, old son. never did. never will. not even in 1929. except among fearmongers, that is. “be afraid!”

    you need an enemy. i understand. i’ll play your silly little norquist game.

    let’s fight!

    maybe you could throw in “democrat party” a few times. welfare queens in cadillacs? obama phones?

    ooh! maybe some jade helm… scary!

    to quote another former president, “please proceed, governor.”

    funny you mention emancipation, though. wasn’t lincoln the original big-government northern republican who prosecuted a war on the insurrectionists (his word) who thought that the individual states should have more economic power than the federal government?

    the same guy who asserted that labor precedes capital, and who further asserted that there would be no capital without labor?

    why, that sounds downright marxist!

    “party of lincoln,” my ass. yours is the party of aristocracy. own it.

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